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Old December 30th, 2009, 12:10 am   #16
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Old December 30th, 2009, 8:38 pm   #17
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so everthings year matches. Thats weird, I know that to put a MTX onto an ATX probe you need the ECU and the wiring harness, but I think that is it for the electrical.

Do you still have the engine you swapped out? If so rob it of everything that doesn't on the new engine and install it.
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Old December 31st, 2009, 2:33 am   #18
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His harness doesn't appear to have any. I looked at examples of both the 93 coil pack and 96 rotor/cap variants, and they look like they could be interchangeable, so I am puzzled. Unless he is missing a harness piece? We need some die-hard 2.0 people to look into this. He has wiring detail that shoud allow him to put together a new harness segment once he locates the ignitor , seitched power, and tach signal wires to the rest of the harness. I am thinking he should start by tracing the tach signal wire from the diagnostic connector back towards the disty. Once past the splice, he should find either a disty connecor hanging loose, or a stub of cut-off harness. Once he finds this, he can create a new harness piece and splice it in.
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I knew something was bothering me about this. Then I remembered that the 1993 2.0L ATX used the same disty system as the 1993 2.5L engine. While the 1993 2.0L MTX was different from the two.

This is for the MTX
http://www.performanceprobe.com/inde...tion/20_94.htm

This is for ATX
http://www.performanceprobe.com/inde...tion/25_93.htm

They list simple wiring diagrams, so that you can get a general idea of what is what. I always forget to look in the information section. In the same section I found these, there is one for "with" the msd harness.
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ok. thank you guys so much for the help. i was looking yesterday and came to the conclusion that the dizzys are different so im probably just going to try to find a mtx dizzy from the 2.0 and use that. Unless u guys know if i can rewire the harness from the mtx to make it run fine and still keep the pcm and ecu and what not in the mtx. what do u guys think? can i just cut some wires and splice the dizzy plugs from the ATX into the MTX car???
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so what do you guys think???
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idk, never tried it. I would say you have the best bet of wiring up the ATX disty as it is external. But I haven't done any disty work at all on mine so I am not sure of how the two would be wired differently.
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actually the atx disty is internal. i have a motor (and disty) from an atx car in a mtx car and the mtx has an external coil mounted by the strut tower on the drivers side and the atx car never had a coil as it is internal inside the disty.
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Mcdonn your online. do you have a clue on what to do???
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im probably just going to try to find a mtx dizzy from the 2.0 and use that. Unless u guys know if i can rewire the harness from the mtx to make it run fine and still keep the pcm and ecu and what not in the mtx. what do u guys think? can i just cut some wires and splice the dizzy plugs from the ATX into the MTX car???
Yes you should be able to. Look at the two wiring diagrams and match up the cam sensor wiring the disty igniter source, ignition trigger/tach, and ground. They should match up cleanly.

What connectors have you found for the disty jacks and what wire colors are going into the connectors? Give me some idea of what you found to hook up, and I can mark up a wiring diagram.

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oop, sorry I misspoke. I would say you can re-wire it, I have heard that the ATX disty is easier to MSD, but I can't remember where I heard that.
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ok guys im back! i was wiring it up and i got stuck again. The wires that were going to the coil are now wired to the atx disty but idk how to wire the ones going from the PCM to the disty. the atx disty plug has 6 wires: Red/Black, Black, Black/red, Light Green/White, Green/orange, Blue/Orange. if u look at the wiring diagrams u sent me, all the wires are on the right side of the diagram except the Red/black. I know where the Red/Black goes but not the rest of them. The Blue/Orange, Green/Orange, and Light Green/white go to the pcm but idk what color wires to connect them to on the mtx harness. The black/red and black say they go to a joint connecter but that looks like it is just a ground. is this true? can i just ground those 2 wires? and what do i connect the 3 wires going to the pcm to (BL/O, GN/O, and LG/W)????? PLEASE HELP GUYS!!! MCDONN where are you??? i need this done quick as my friend wants the car out of his garage.
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Default I was wondering when you would post some wiring data...

I am putting together a wiring chart. However, I'm still not positive I know what you have to work with. Please look at the drivers side strut tower under the cruise control actuator for an Ignition Control Module (See pic.) What wires do you have from the MTX engine harness side? Did you find a six pin or three pin connector? What was the ignition coil wired to previously?
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I am gonna drive over and look now. i will reply back in about 30 minutes. please get online mcdonn. i need this thing done by the end of the night. Thank you for all ur help. i will be back online shortly.
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I need to know what you have on the harness side to connect to.
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