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Old September 19th, 2008, 3:55 am   #1
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Default why does my old and new caliper freeze up?

The first problem with my car was the left tire's axle nut came loose. This made my rotor warp and would cause my caliper to freeze up. I replaced both the caliper and the rotor with new parts. Now today the new caliper froze up. I let it cool down and drove it home and replaced the wheel bearing since that could be the only other problem, I just have to replace the tie rod tomorrow and I will know if it was the problem. Just wondering if any one has had a similar problem or knows what the problem is.
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Old September 19th, 2008, 5:01 am   #2
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Did you change the brake lines, usually the rubber will go bad let pressure in not out thus holding the caliper on, if you didnt replace your lines after the meltdown I would.
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could be a bad master also. but the line's i would check first since its alot mroe typical of a failure.
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If it is the brake booster would both the brakes freeze up or could only one freeze up?
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Without a doubt it is the brake line. You cook the brake fluid a few times and old ones fall apart. They usually let fluid thru when u push the brakes, but then it won't go back towards the master because there isnt enough pressure to let it return. Replace both sides if not all 4. They're prolly originals.
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Replace just the rubber part or all of it?
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The rubber lines (flex lines) the rubber usually collapses and causes that problem. Cooking the brake fluid didnt help matters either...
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I changed the rubber lines and even the hard line. Now the brakes don't bleed at all, nothing comes out of the master cylinder. I looked at the fluid and it looks really thick, there are parts that look like jelly. Is there some way of getting all the fluid out of the master cylinder?
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It's probably just easier to replace the master cylinder, if that isnt in your budget, connect some hardlines and put them in some sort of catch can and just pump away keeping the lines in the fluid so you wont get any air till you feel the fluid looks nice and clean.

DONT USE DEGREASERS!! It will cause the rubber to swell and destroy the master cylinder.
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I replaced the master cylinder and now it works great.
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If you had jelly looking stuff, someone probably put a petroleum product like oil in there. The quick test is dip your fingers in the fluid, then go to the sink.. if it rinses off its brake fluid, if it stays slick its contaminated. But seeing as the jobs done, id say you had 2 problems at once. Bet the brakes feel a whole lot better now too
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The gel substance could be horribly neglected brake fluid. I've seen it where the stuff is so old it won't gravity bleed. You should change the brake fluid once a year.
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